Who are the Elect of Matt. 24?

Pre-Trib. Rapture theorists believe the Elect of Matt. 24 are the Jewish remnant. Pre-Wrath Rapture theorists believe they are Christians. This is not a trivial question. If they are the Jewish remnant, the Pre-Wrath Rapture theory is incorrect. If they are the Church, the Pre-Trib. Rapture theory is incorrect. So who are the elect of Matt. 24?

Who are the Elect of Matt. 24?

The most controversial word in Matthew 24 is “elect” which is a translation of the Greek word EKLEKTOS in the following verse :

And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect (Gk: EKLEKTOS) from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. (Matt. 24:31 NASB)

Exclusive of this controversial usage, if asked who the Elect are, we would say they are all who have placed or will place their faith in Jesus. This would include Old Testament saints (placed their faith in the Messiah to come), Christians and the Jewish remnant that will one day place their faith in Him. Let us see how this common sense approach is confirmed by Scripture.

This Greek Word EKLECTOS is utilized frequently (23 times) in the New Testament and 13 times in the Old Testament. In the New Testament, two uses are in regard to Jesus, one use is in regard to a Christian brother, and one use is in regard to angels. The remaining 19 uses of this word are all in regard to Christians and the word is translated both by “elect” and “chosen” in English translations:

If God is for us, who is against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? Who will bring a charge against God’s elect (EKLEKTOS)? (Rom. 8:31-33 NASB)

There is no distinction between Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave and freeman, but Christ is all, and in all. So, as those who have been chosen (EKLEKTOS) of God, holy and beloved, put on a heart of compassion. (Col. 3:11-12)

Paul, a bond-servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the faith of those chosen (EKLEKTOS) of God. (Titus 1:1 NASB)

The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour. These have one purpose, and they give their power and authority to the beast. These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those who are with Him are the called and chosen (Gk: EKLEKTOS) and faithful. (Rev. 17:12-14)

These passages show that in the New Testament, this word (EKLEKTOS) refers to Christians (those who have already placed their faith in Jesus), and in the case of Titus 1:1 can refer to Gentile Christians.

Pre-Trib. Position

So what possible basis can Pre-Trib. theorists use to claim the “elect” are solely the Jewish remnant? Their reasoning is that this same Greek word EKLEKTOS is used to refer to righteous Israelites in the Septuagint Old Testament.  The Hebrew equivalent word is BACHIR and ten of the thirteen occurances refer to God’s chosen people. Some are like this verse:

Remember His wonderful deeds which He has done, His marvels and the judgments from His mouth, O seed of Israel His servant,Sons of Jacob, His chosen ones (EKLEKTOS)! (1 Chron. 16:12-13)

This verse obviously refers to the Sons of Jacob or the saved found within national Israel. Some other Old Testament verses that reference EKLEKTOS do not necessarily refer only to national Israel

I will bring forth offspring from Jacob, And an heir of My mountains from Judah; even My chosen ones (EKLEKTOS) shall inherit it, and My servants will dwell there (Isa. 65:9)

And He brought forth His people with joy, his chosen ones (EKLEKTOS) with a joyful shout He gave them also the lands of the nations, that they might take possession of the fruit of the peoples’ labor (Psalm 105:43-44)

Both of these verses refer to the end times and the inheritance that will be given God’s Elect. The first verse mentions Jesus as the heir of his mountains (Kingdom). In both verses, however, the chosen ones are not exclusively Jews. And the following verse shows that God will call the chosen ones by a new name! (not Judah or Jacob)

You will leave your name for a curse to My chosen ones (EKLEKTOS), and the Lord God will slay you. But My servants will be called by another name. (Isa. 65:15)

Who are the Elect?

Based on this analysis of the entire Bible, we see that Old Testament references to EKLEKTOS are mixed. Some refer strictly to national Israel, some could refer to the Church as well, and some seem to refer strictly to the Church. This makes complete sense. Old Testament saints such as Moses and Daniel placed their faith in God and his coming Messiah. By this faith they were saved and they are definitively EKLEKTOS. So in the Old Testament, we see references to EKLEKTOS that are Jews such as Daniel, and in prophetic passages we see references to future Christians who will be EKLEKTOS.

After the resurrection of Jesus, only those who have placed their faith in our Risen Savior are EKLEKTOS. For this reason, in the New Testament, all references to EKLEKTOS are to those who have placed their faith in Jesus.

In and of itself, this analysis does not solve our dilemma. If the Pre-Trib. Rapture theorists are correct, then Matt. 24:31 is the physical Second Coming when Jesus returns to fight Armageddon. If this were true, then at that point the Jewish remnant would have already placed their faith in Jesus and would be EKLEKTOS at that point.

If the Pre-Wrath Rapture is correct, then Matt. 24:31 is the Rapture and  EKLEKTOS refers to those who have placed their faith in Jesus at that point and it would include Christians.

On its own, a word study of EKLEKTOS neither proves nor denys the Pre-Trib. Rapture. I must say that it highly favors the Pre-Wrath Rapture since every New Testament reference refers to Christians, but this isn’t complete proof.

Other Evidence-The Apostles’ Opinion

The Didache is a highly regarded Christian document from the First Century, and is substantiation for the Elect being Christians. Although the Didache is not part of the canon of scripture, many believe it may be the oral tradition of the disciples. The document is universally accepted as authentic, and it is referenced in the writing of numerous early Church Fathers . It is considered by many to be the oral tradition and teaching of the Apostles prior to the writing of the New Testament books.

The final chapter of the Didache is entirely devoted to eschatological issues, but even in earlier chapters, end time references are found. Of greatest interest is the ending of a Eucharistic prayer found in Chapter 10 which is an exact quote from Matt. 24:31.

Remember, Lord, your church, to save her from every evil, and to perfect her in your love, and to gather her together from the four winds, the sanctied into your kingdom which you have prepared for her. (Didache 10:5, emphasis mine)

And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds. (Matt. 24:31 NASB, emphasis mine)

It is obvious from this early Church document that First Century Christians believed the Apostles equated “the elect” of Matt. 24:31 with the Church and a Pre-Wrath Rapture. Again, this proof highly favors a Pre-Wrath Rapture, but because the Didache is not canon, it is not 100% conclusive proof.

Evidence from the Gospel of Mark

The verse quoted at the beginning of this article (Matt. 24:31) has a parallel passage in Mark. The one slight difference between the verses, however, provides us with a very, very interesting twist:

Then they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory.  And then He will send forth the angels, and will gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest end of the earth to the farthest end of heaven. (Mark 13: 26-27)

This verse is nearly identical to Matt. 24:31. But pay strict attention to the end of the verse. The destination of the gathering together of the Elect is given. They are gathered FROM the farthest end of the earth TO Heaven. This subtle difference is ignored by nearly all Rapture theorists.

Pre-Trib. Rapture theorists (and Post-Trib. Rapture theorists) don’t consider Heaven the destination of the gathering together. Both main Rapture theories consider this a horizontal gathering from the ends of the earth back to Israel. However, Mark clearly indicates that this gathering together is to Heaven. This is very strong evidence that this is the Rapture not a simple gathering back to Israel because Israel is not the destination; heaven is.

Some might argue that “heaven” is sometimes used simply to mean sky in some passages. However, this word in Mark 13:27 is the same “heaven” that Jesus uses extensively in the gospels for the true heaven; such as in “Kingdom of Heaven,” or “your reward in Heaven is great,” or “Our Father who art in Heaven.” To completely  substantiate this meaning, the Holy Spirit had Mark add the words “the farthest end” of heaven to the verse. Obviously a gathering wouldn’t be to the farthest end of the atmosphere! Rather this clearly references the abode of God himself, which is the destination of the Rapture.

Because only 4% of the Church currently realizes that the Rapture will be Pre-Wrath, this verse in Mark is one of hundreds that is under-examined. Items like the destination of the gathering of the Elect have been ignored because they don’t fit with the other Rapture theories.

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Summary

So, we have looked at the word “Elect” in both the Old and New Testaments and found that because the New Testament exclusively uses this word for Christians, it most likely means that in Matt. 24 as well. We also looked at the First Century Church document, the Didache, which supports this finding as well. We then looked at Mark 13:26-27 which is a parallel passage to Matt. 24:31 to finally prove that the event in Matthew is the Rapture and that the Elect in that passage are the Church who have placed their faith in Jesus.

 

26 thoughts on “Who are the Elect of Matt. 24?”

  1. Nelson,

    I was sent by a common friend to look at this article. Upon reading..I believe in a Pre-Trib and I believe differently; yet it still stands up. If one were to remember the predominant audiences of each of the books, then ‘elect’ stands up – it could have been believing Jews or believing Gentile as the definition of ‘elect’ to the audience… Elect would reflect any ‘believer’ in Christ on either side of the cross and if thinking of the audience, they fall right into place, still. OT through to John, picking back up at Hebrews onward – it would be a predominant believing Jewish audience – Romans to Philemon, to predominantly believing Gentile audience.

    Additionally, as a pre-tribber, I do not believe we’ll be gathered horizontally, but to Heaven. That statement is not categorically correct.

    1. Thanks Ellen. Because you were referred to this article, you probably don’t know that it was written in response to an opinion on a previous comment trail. Perhaps that helps in your understanding.

      In regard to horizontal versus vertical gathering, let me take a moment to explain. As a former Pre-Trib. enthusiast myself, my understanding of that position is that believers will be gathered prior to the beginning of the 70th Week of Daniel (“The Tribulation”) and that they will be gathered vertically into heaven. This is the Rapture or HARPAZO (1 Thess. 4:16-17). The Pre-Wrath position is similar. We believe the faithful will be raptured vertically into heaven prior to the pouring out of the Wrath of God as well. The difference in opinions is that we believe the Wrath of God begins after the first six seals of Revelation (see Rev. 6:17) and that believers will be on the earth during most (but not all) of the 70th Week of Daniel. It is commonly agreed that the events in Matt. 24:4-31 and Mark 13:5-27 occur during the 70th Week and that the verses in question (Mark 13:26-27) happen at the end or close to the end of that time.

      Pre-Trib. and Post-Trib. believers think that the event in both Matt. 24:30-31 and Mark 13:26-27 is the physical Second Coming of Jesus when he returns to earth to fight Armageddon. So what is the gathering that takes place at the end of the Tribulation according to Pre-Trib. theory? Most Pre-Trib. thinkers agree it is a gathering of the Jewish remnant who have repented and the surviving Tribulation saints. These new believers are gathered horizontally to Jesus (they don’t go to heaven but are gathered to him on the earth). Pre-Wrath believers do not agree. We believe that this event in these verses depicts the one and only Rapture that happens near the end of the Tribulation; and that Jesus returning to fight Armageddon is not depicted in Matt. 24 or Mark 13 at all. We believe that event is found in Rev. 19:11 and follows but not in the gospels.

      So the vertical gathering together into heaven in Mark 13:26-27 is a big deal; a very big deal. It supports (it may prove) the Pre-Wrath position is correct; that this is the Rapture not some horizontal gathering. Probably that is why this link was sent to you. Of course, there are many, many other proofs that the event in Mark 13:26-27 is the Rapture. If this were the only proof, then I might be intrigued but not convinced. I encourage you to purchase the new book “Rapture: Case Closed?” when it comes out and view all the new interpretive evidence. Then decide for yourself.

  2. Several (incorrect) statements in this article.

    1) Pre-Trib Rapture theorists believe that the “Elect” of Matthew 24 are the Jewish Remnant.
    No, we all DON’T believe that. I (for one) believe that “Elect” means Believers (Saints, Christians, etc.). I think the Bible clearly teaches that many will be saved after the Rapture. They will be “elect” in earthly bodies. Those that are raptured will be “elect” in glorified bodies.

    2) I find your exegesis of Mark 13:26-27 lacking. The companion passages in Matthew and Luke appear to clearly imply the incredible scope of how far His angels go to gather His elect. Yet you want to make the passage in Mark say that God’s angels take them from the farthest point of earth TO the farthest point of heaven, as though it were a destination? Your interpretation does not appear to stand up to scrutiny.

    3) Your statement “because only 4% of the church realises that the Rapture will be pre-wrath” is also misleading. If you had simply said “only 4% believes”, then no one should take issue with your statement. However, your choice of phrasing (4% of the church REALISES) can easily cause the un-studied bible student to accept your belief that the pre-wrath view is absolute. A view that pre-trib adherants are certain is false.

    Therein lies a huge problem with articles like this. While they appear to sound scholarly, in reality, they are riddled with serious misleading statements or mis-representations.

    This article reminds me of several discussions I have had with those that insist that water baptism is necessary for salvation. They are “able” (in their minds) to “prove” their point. However, when one insists on taking the Bible literally AND comparing scripture with scripture, their arguments quickly fall apart (regrettably, their persistent belief is NOT based upon scripture alone, but on what they have been taught that the Bible says).

    You are welcome to write articles supporting your pre-wrath view. I encourage you to continue studing scripture on the subject.

    However, you do not serve your perspective nor your readers well when your “argument” is based upon false assumptions / definitions.

    Keep up the good work, but please, accurately portray the views of pre-trib adherents. We need scholarly writing, not well written opinions.

    Study well, my friend.

    1. Pastor Matthew:

      Thanks for engaging brother to brother on this website and I appreciate your comments.

      First, I am overjoyed to see your position on who the elect in Matt. 24 truly are. We agree. This article was written in response to a specific Pre-Trib. comment on another article, and sadly the position presented here does reflect a common position. However, as with all positions, believers form a vast array of nuanced beliefs. Just as my Pre-Wrath position differs slightly from other Pre-Wrath positions, Pre-Trib. positions differ as well. You are correct, that the article obviously does not reflect the entirety of Pre-Trib. positions and it generalizes. However, please check out this link to an article by Dr. Thomas Ice, probably the world’s leading pre-tribulationalist: https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/ice_thomas/Mat24-25/Mat24-25_Part28.cfm His article clearly shows him exposing the same position I attribute to Pre-Trib in my article.

      “you want to make the passage in Mark say that God’s angels take them from the farthest point of earth TO the farthest point of heaven.” Pastor M.

      Second, your statement is exactly what the passage in Mark states! In Koine Greek, as in English, the combination of the prepositions “From/To” always means movement from one destination to another. Letters or emails travel from one point to another; people travel as well. You are correct that the angels go to the farthest extent of the earth to gather together the elect. This is found in Matthew as well. However, Mark’s witness adds the important detail of their destination!! Proper Greek grammar necessitates that the verse describes movement and a destination, which is the farthest end of heaven. I realize this nuance of interpretation is new to most readers; and for many it may be challenging to their understanding. This is good; it is iron sharpening iron. It is not surprising that as the return of our King approaches, we will be given new understanding of the ancient scriptures; just in time, as we need them.

      Thank you for engaging on this topic. But, this is only one topic. I encourage you as the good Berean you obviously are to check out the book “Rapture: Case Closed?” which will be released later this summer. It contains 146 more challenging proofs of Rapture Timing, dozens and dozens of which have never been published before. Then when you have viewed all the evidence, you can be the judge.

  3. Other scriptures also define who the elect are– without trying to support any “rapture” view. The “elect of God” are those whom God has predestined to salvation. They are called the “elect” because that word denotes the concept of choosing. God has ordained to redeem a remnant of humanity to salvation. These elect individuals were chosen before the creation of the world, and their salvation is complete in Christ. As Paul says, “For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified” (Romans 8:29-30).

    There are 8 references in the New Testament to the “book of life,” and two of them refer specifically to the book of life that belongs to the Lamb, Jesus Christ. Seven of the references appear in the book of Revelation. Those whose names are written in the book of life are those who belong to God, those who have attained eternal life.

    Revelation 3:5 refers to the book of life in which the names of believers in the Lord are found. These are those who overcome the trials of earthly life, proving that their salvation is genuine. “The one who conquers will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels.”

    Conversely, Revelation 20:15 reveals the fate of those whose names are not written in the book of life—eternity in the lake of fire. Rev 13:8 and 21:27, we find the references to the “Lamb’s book of life,” in which also are the names of all those who have been washed by the blood of the Lamb, Jesus Christ. The Lamb who has been “slain from the creation of the world” has a book in which are written all those who have been redeemed by His sacrifice. They are the ones who will enter the Holy City, the New Jerusalem (Revelation 21:10) and who will live forever in heaven with God. Since the book of life is that which records all who have eternal life through the Lamb, it’s clear that the book of life and the Lamb’s book of life are one and the same.

    There is not doubt that the elect are, believers, whose name is written in the book of life at creation. This means that the omniscience of God knew at creation which souls would chose to following The Way, The Truth, and the Life. They are not only the elect by God, they elected to believe in God. For these people the great tribulation of Satan will be amputated short.

    1. Kensme: You said: “This means that the omniscience of God knew at creation which souls would chose to following The Way, The Truth, and the Life. They are not only the elect by God, they elected to believe in God”.

      This is off topic, but not sure if I agree with your statement. May be I am misreading you, based on the way I am reading this.
      I hope you are not saying that because God looks in the future and sees who chooses to follow Christ, and consequently God chooses to elect those people and puts their name in the Book of Life, before the creation of the world. If that is what you are saying, then this is a wrong doctrine in my opinion.

      No one can come to a genuine repentance of sin, and confession of Christ as their Lord and savior, unless the Holy Spirit prompts the individual to be convicted of Sin, Judgment and Righteusness. Followers choose to receive Christ, because God first chose us to believe, and not the other way around. Individuals do not elect themselves into Kingdom of God. Only God elects and chose his children, from the beginning.

      1. Afo, This is a controversial topic and frankly I’m not sure we will ever know the answer until we stand before the Lord. I know that only the Holy Spirit can lead a person to repentance and faith. I am also sure that we must choose to believe. So IMO it is both.

  4. ““Because you have obeyed my command to persevere, I will protect you from the great time of testing that will come upon the whole world to test those who belong to this world.”
    ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭3:10‬ ‭NLT‬‬

    Christ even affirms his statement from Matthew 24, in his saying to the Church of Philadelphia also. The Elect are guaranteed protection from God’s wrath, especially since Christ allowed God’s wrath upon himself on behalf of the Elect, while he was suffering on the cross.

    1. Amen Afo, amen.

      The word “from” in this case is EK which means “from out of the middle of.” And the Greek word “Keep” actually means “guard or protect.” If John wanted to say we would be kept from the time of testing entirely he would have used the Greek word APO. But that is not what he said. He said we would be guarded from out of the middle of the time of testing. This is talking about the Great Tribulation and how the Church of Philadelphia will be guarded during the Great Tribulation then raptured out of the midst of it prior to the Wrath of God. Again, all scripture points to a Pre-Wrath Rapture.

      Yes, for those of us who are in Christ the price has been paid. Even those who are martyred will only sleep for a little white then be awakened in the presence of the Savior.

  5. Hi Nelson

    I’ve always used Mark 13 to show that the elect in Mat 24 is not the Jewish remnant. Though rightly or wrongly , I’ve always seen Mark 13 a little different from how you have presented it.

    Mark 13 always brings to mind Spalm 50, which states God will come with fire, and that ‘He shall call to the heavens above, and to the earth that he may judge his people’s v4

    I’ve always seen these two chapters representing resurrection, as he calls from heaven and earth , as I’ve seen it , meaning the dead and the living.

    Also when the remnant are gathered , the angels won’t be gathering them, Isa 66 says they will be bought to Jerusalem on horses and chariots,mules and swift beasts ect. Another chapter says the tongue of the Egyptian see will be dried up so they can cross over on foot, this wouldn’t be needed if angels were gathering them!

    Thank you.

    1. Linda, Psalm 50 is quite interesting. If you would like, perhaps we can do an article on it someday. Yes, the resurrection, rapture, and the Wrath of God falling as fire all happen in the same day, the Day of the Lord, so if Mark 13:27 reminds you of the resurrection: good. The righteous living and the righteous dead are “gathered together upwards” (Gk: EPISUNAGO) on that day.

      Isa. 66 is also a very, very interesting chapter; and yes, notice the gathering of the remnant is done by Israelites using pack animals. Great observation. Thanks for sharing these with us.

    1. Phil, Thank you for sending this article. It is helpful to see a full explanation of someone’s position. After wading thru this lengthy treatise, Hamp’s main position is that the elect are Jews and not gentile Christians. This heresy is easily disputed. God’s Word always contains clues to dismiss these sorts of things.

      2 Tim. 2:10 “For this reason I endure all things for the sake of those who are chosen (EKLEKTOS), so that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus and with it eternal glory.” Paul endured all things for gentiles (and Jews as well). He did not endure all things only for the Jews.

      Col. 3:12 “So, as those who have been chosen (EKLEKTOS) of God, holy and beloved, put on a heart of compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.” Hamp makes a huge point out of saying that in Romans when Paul uses EKLEKTOS he is only addressing Jews (I completely disagree). But here Paul writes to a gentile church.

      Hamp makes the mistake of looking at old Testament references to this word and applies the same meaning to it in the New Testament even though God had done a new thing through Jesus and broken down the wall of division to make one new man, neither Jew nor Greek.

        1. I will be happy to do an article on that one as well, but it might be a while. I have a series on Amillennialism upon request of Christopher and one on the Timing of the Breaking of the Seals by request of Dani-EL coming up as well.

  6. Thanks for your reply Nelson

    Isa 66 is indeed an interesting Chapter, V19 always amazes me, (unfortunately I have the kind of mind which always spots ‘seeminng contradictions’ )

    We know that the gospel shall be preached/be a whittness to every nation before the Lord comes, yet V19 says that the remnant will also be sent to those who have not heard of the Lord’s fame.
    I suppose that could mean that not every soul in a nation may have been ‘free’ to hear.

    I don’t worry though, as the answers usually come at some point.

    Thank you

  7. Nelson: I know you have talked about this before, but I ask you tell me why the sixth seal is not the beginning of God’s wrath? when I read about sixth seal, it is portraying the wrath of God. Vs. 17 says , for the day of wrath has come, during the sixth seal.

    Is it possible that the wrath of God is closer to 2 years, rather than one year?
    I know you have already made your case as to when God’s wrath starts, but please make your case, as to why God’s wrath does “not”(emphasized) start at the beginning of sixth year?

    1. Afo, thanks for the question. God’s Wrath definitively begins after the Sixth Seal, and may begin with the Sixth Seal. The first five seals are all man’s events (the rise of Antichrist, war, economic price setting, persecution unto death). The Sixth Seal is a God thing. The statement in Rev. 6:17 after the Sixth Seal opened is in the aroist indicative but the ingressive use which signifies the beginning of an action. A similar use of the word “come” (aorist indicative ingressive use) is found in Mark. This usage can even be slightly anticipatory:

      And He came the third time, and said to them, “Are you still sleeping and resting? It is enough; the hour has come; behold, the Son of Man is being betrayed into the hands of sinners. Get up, let us be going; behold, the one who betrays Me is at hand! Immediately while He was still speaking, Judas, one of the twelve, came up accompanied by a crowd ” (Mark 14:41-43)

      This statement by Jesus shows that the hour was upon them because he knew Judas on his way immediately before he arrived. In Revelation, the statement in Rev. 6:17 is followed by Rev. 7 which shows the protection and sealing of the Jewish remnant and the protection of the vast multitude who have arrived in heaven via the Rapture. This is an interlude that happens in the blink of an eye. We know that the resurrection, Rapture, the pouring out of God’s Wrath all happen in the same day. Thus when Jesus breaks the 7th Seal, this is the same day as the Rapture and probably the same day as the unrepentant saying the Wrath of God has come. They see it is about to begin, make this statement and then the events of Rev. 8 take place.

      The question is whether the events of the Sixth Seal take place on this same day (the day of the Lord). They very well may, or they may take place as much as several months earlier (on Shauvot). Most will argue for the same day, and they may be correct.

      We are told the Wrath of God is one year long three separate places in Isaiah. Plus it is the length of time (actually one year ten days) that Noah was in the Ark during the First Wrath of God and the “days” of Noah are to be the same as the “days” of the coming of the Son of Man. Plus if you look at a Shabua or Week (Daniels 70th Week), the final year is the Sabbatical year and is this exact length (one year ten days). It is the year that the repentant righteous rest (as in Sabbath rest) in heaven while the Wrath takes place on earth.

      I am not sure about the timing of the Sixth Seal (Shauvot or Yom Teruah) but I am rather certain about the 1 year 10 day Wrath of God.

      Hope that helps.

      1. Thanks Nelson.
        Can’t put my fingure on which seal Revelation Ch 7 belongs too?
        6th or 7th seal?

        When it talks about the144,000 and the the murdered saints being by the throne of God, sounds like a seventh seal.

        When it talks about the Angels sealing the saints forehead, sounds more like the 6the seal!!

        Please comment

        1. First, AFO, please notice that nowhere in Rev. 7 does it say the vast multitude were martyrs. It only says they came out of (Gk: EK) the Great Tribulation. This multitude contains the resurrected righteous dead from all the ages. Daniel, Zechariah, Peter, Paul, etc. and all the Raptured still living saints.

          Rev. Chapter 7 occurs between the Sixth Seal and the Seventh. So based on position, those events occur between the Seals. The only issue I have with that is that the Seventh Seal makes “sense” from a human standpoint to be all of the Day of the Lord events, Resurrection, Rapture, Sealing and the First Trumpet all make sense after the Seventh. However, the clear sense of Revelation is that the righteous are Raptured prior to the Seventh Seal. Now we know from Luke 17 and 2 Thess. 1 that the Wrath of God and the Rapture happen on the exact same day, so the time between these events is probably very, very short. It also makes no human sense that the vast multitude would be silent before the Lord only minutes or hours after the Rapture.

          Now Rev. 8:1 begins with “when He broke the Seventh Seal.” This particular phrase doesn’t include a “then” to give absolute chronology. So it is an outside possibility that the Rapture and sealing happens during the half and hour of silence. (Heaven is silent when the Lord is absent gathering his children!) This is my best guess, but I would never disagree with someone who claims the Rapture happens after the Sixth Seal and before the Seventh as this is the order we read in Revelation. I just can’t say for certain.

  8. I don’t challenge the Omniscience of the great I AM, or the Word of God using dogmas or doctrines of man. God created Adam and breathed the breath of life in him, made him master over all the earth, gave him freedom to choose, aka freewill, according to God’s will be done. Surely God knew Adam would choose to eat the forbidden fruit, he said so..”Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

    Choosing not to eat it yields eternal life, choosing to eat leads to death. God knew before this happened the exact day & hour, Jesus would die because of this sin by Adam. Jesus calls himself the Son of Man for this reason, He removes the penalty of death from sin, and restores the choice of eternal life to mankind. Like Adam all men & women choose, but God on the day he created Adam already knows what each soul will choose. They are entered in the Book of Life, and are the elect. Even Jesus says of that day or hour no man knows, but the Father in heaven. The day of creation God knew what day Jesus will return after his death at the exact second in time on the cross. Mind boggling isn’t it.

  9. Thank you Nelson for your diligent work. I agree that the use of the word elect in Matt. 24 must refer to the church (believing Jew and gentile in one body). However, having been a strong pre-trib proponent for 30 years and now wholeheartedly proclaiming the pre-wrath model of the rapture, I have found a different method of proving the elect of Matt. 24 to be the church more effective.

    Concerning the identity of the elect who are gathered to Jesus by the angels in Matthew 24:31 we find that Jesus uses the word elect 3 times in this chapter. Since there is no change in the overall context of the chapter we believe that each occurrence refers to the same category of believers. The first use in the chapter is found in verse 22 where Jesus says that the days of “great tribulation” are shortened for the elect’s sake, or else none would be left alive.

    Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

    Remember the “great tribulation”, as Jesus calls it, is a unique time of intense persecution of believers by the Beast. He makes war with the saints and physically prevails over them. We know that these elect are those who are in the “great tribulation”.

    John tells us this when describing what he sees in heaven:

    Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
    Rev 7:10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

    Rev 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
    Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    John tells us that a great multitude of Gentile (“of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues”) believers will come out of “great tribulation” (“These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.”)

    At minimum, we are certain that this group of “elect” are not exclusively Jews. In fact, the evidence points more toward these “elect” being the church; believing Jews and Gentiles together.

    One of the reasons to conclude that this group of “elect”, which is identified by that name three times in Matthew 24, is distinct from Israel is the fact that in the moments prior to God’s wrath being poured out (Rev. 8) but after the cosmic signs of the Day of the LORD (Rev. 6:12-17) one hundred and forty-four thousand Israelites are sealed for protection from the impending trumpet and vial judgments (Rev 7:2-8). It is inferred that these Israelites remain upon the Earth. A remnant of Israel will be protected through the period of God’s wrath (the Day of the LORD) while remaining upon the Earth.

    From Rev. 12 we also know that some portion of Israel is going to flee to the wilderness and be protected there for 1260 days.

    Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

    The Rev. 12 text makes it very clear that these Israelites will be protected from the Dragon and the Beast which he indwells through the “great tribulation” which begins in the middle of the seventieth week of Daniel and also the period of God’s wrath which follows it. To the contrary, the elect in Matt. 24:22 are being killed in such numbers and with such speed that the Lord must intervene to save some alive.

    In the same interlude where we find the sealing of the 144,000 (Rev. 7), there is a great multitude seen in heaven praising God. These are said to be those believers from “all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues” who “came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” These are the “elect” of Matthew 24. Many shall be those of whom it was said that they “loved not their lives unto the death” (Rev 12:11) and were slain for the testimony of Jesus Christ (Rev 6:9). The rest will be believers who remain alive to the end of the “great tribulation” and are raptured. Both of these groups make up the first resurrection. These are the elect of Matt. 24.

    The remaining use of “elect” in Matthew chapter 24, that we haven’t yet discussed, is in verse 24.

    Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    Jesus speaks of this future eschatological period as one of great deception. In his answer to the disciple’s three questions (Matt. 24:3) He warns them repeatedly not to be deceived. In verse 24 Jesus says the deception will be so great that if it were possible even the very elect would be deceived. One conclusion from this statement of Christ is that the true elect cannot be deceived by the great signs and wonders done by the Antichrist, the False Prophet, and their followers. How does this truth help us identify the “elect” in our text?

    Are there any other scriptures which may give us light concerning this special attribute of the elect referred to here in Matthew 24? Paul in writing to the believers in Rome makes a statement which will help clear this up.

    Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
    Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

    Paul to the Romans made reference to the forensic blindness that Isaiah the prophet spoke of.

    Isa 29:10 For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.

    Isa 6:9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
    Isa 6:10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.

    Notice that Israel in part has been made blind and this blindness shall continue until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. Today God is calling out a people, for His name, from among the Gentiles. One day that number will be full or complete. When this is true, then and only then, will blindness be removed from Israel and all Israel shall be saved.

    Since we are told that a believing Gentile multitude, that cannot be numbered, comes out of the “great tribulation” (Rev 7:9-17), the period of time in context in verse 24, it is safe to say that the fulness of the gentiles does not come at least until the “great tribulation” is over. This being true we may conclude that during the “great tribulation” Israel in part is still under the decreed blindness of God. Therefore, those of whom it is said that it is impossible for them to be deceived must be the church.

    When it is understood that the “elect” Jesus speaks of in Matt. 24 must be, not only, a remnant of believing Jews but also a great number of believing Gentiles who have been graphed in (Rom 11:17), then verse 31 clearly speaks of the pre-wrath rapture of the church.

    1. Steve, this is brilliant, and correct. It is a complex proof, but I see the logic of tying the idea that the fullness of the gentiles must precede Jewish repentance and the opening of their eyes. Nice job!

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