When Does the Wrath of God Begin?

When does the Wrath of God begin? God has promised that he will exempt Christians from his Wrath. So if we know when the Wrath starts, we also know the timing of the Rapture .

In the last article, (CLICK HERE) we demonstrated how Rev. 6:17 gives the exact day that the Wrath starts – after the sixth seal of Revelation and after the Great Tribulation.

Obviously that is problematic for Pretribulation Rapture followers! So they have concocted theories to show how the Wrath might start before the Tribulation period. The following video disproves those theories.

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8 thoughts on “When Does the Wrath of God Begin?”

  1. All 7 wrath already poured.

    1. Black death plaque hit muslim nations 14th century.
    2. Religious war in Europe (Catholic vs Protestant) and middle east (Sunni vs Shia) around 16th century.
    3. Sunni vs Shia 18th century.
    4. WW-1
    5. Fall of caliphate (Sevres treaty 1920) and Spanish flu
    6. WW-2
    7. Continuation of WW-2 (Babylon harlot Europe destruction) and Jerusalem under 3 claims: Israel, Jordan, Palestine.

    Not futuristic event after all.

  2. Nathan: Back on the 144,000, I would point out that they are mentioned in Revelation 7:1-8 and are not protected until after the 6th seal judgment (if you look at the judgments as sequential. This means that there are beliers on the earth after the 6th seal yet they are apparently protected as the scripture indicates from some level of judgment and in particular the fifth trumpet judgment as implied in Revelation 9:4b.

    Here is the verse: “…but only those men who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads;” Rev 9:4b saying that the locusts from the pit will not be able to harm those who have God’s seal on their foreheads.

    As I suggested earlier, the 144,000 are mentioned right before a great number of saints are described as being in the presence of God who had come out of the Great Tribulation. There is only one way to be reconciled to God and that is through His Son so the 144,000 who are described as servants of the Lord would seem to be a part of the church. Not gentiles but as Messianic believers.

    1. Thanks Joseph. Based on this email, I decided to do a video on the 144,000. It’s a mysterious prophecy, one for which no one has yet put forward a completely adequate answer. One thing to consider while I write and produce the video is the issue of “sealing.” My research shows that in the entire Bible, the act of sealing is a sign of salvation/justification and the coming of the Holy Spirit – not protection only. So I see no reason God would seal Messianic believers who were already sealed. No, in my mind these are previously unsaved Jews who are saved and sealed at this point in time. When the video comes out in a week or so, I’ll attach it here for you to consider.

  3. Nelson: It would seem that Revelation 7:2b-3 provides a partial answer for the status of the 144,000: “And he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea saying, “Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees util we have salad the servants of our God on their foreheads.”

    It seems that the 144,000 are divinely protected through the trumpet and bowl judgements in order to complete the assignment that God has given them.

    “Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days.” Revelation 12:7

    This speaks of Divine protection of God during the Great Tribulation (including the Trumpet and bowl judgments) as the next group to be mentioned, the great multitude of Revelation 7:9 are said to be from the Great Tribulation.

    Zechariah 14:4-5 describes the Lord’s standing on the Mount of Olives at his parousia and a remnant escapes from Jerusalem.

    I mention the trumpet and bowl judgments as the harm that the 144,000 are protected from appears to be reflective of what is affected during that season of judgement.

    The big question here does the Lord punish those whom is is protecting some of whom are part of the church (144,000 thousand)? I get the impression here that what is sometimes regarded as punishment (particularly those who take the pre trib position) is the Lord creating conditions to bring men to repentance.

    I would like to say that the church is not exempt from being in an environment where men are coming to repentance. I would humbly suggest that is what the trumpet and bowl judgments are about.

    1. Joseph, thanks for your comments about the 144k. If you have a copy of Rapture: Case Closed? handy, Chapter Four deals with this question. Obviously the charts and more extensive discussion is more that we can do in this comment section so I suggest if you have a copy you reread my full thoughts. And I agree with you that Rev. 7:1-8 gives some of the information about the 144k.
      1. it tells us these are Jewish tribes. You see to indicate these might also include gentile Christians but that is adding to the text.
      2. it tells us they are exactly and precisely 144k in number. One verse later in Rev. 7:9 when the raptured saints are pictured (see https://youtu.be/LjORAbYt8s4 for evidence these are raptured saints) they are said to be a great multitude not an exact number. So by extension, the 144k is an exact number.
      3. we are told they are sealed prior to the first three trumpets. We learn later that this sealing is the salvation of the 144k in Rev. 14:1 where it is Jesus’s name on the seal. So although the traditional prewrath view is this is protection, I disagree with it.

      Then in Rev. 14:1-4 we get more information about the 144k
      1. As we stated before the seal is shown to have been salvation
      2. They are on Mount Zion which could be the heavenly Mount Zion or the earthly. We find out it is the heavenly one a few verses later.
      3. Notice the 144k are singing before the throne, the elders and the living creatures. They are in heaven
      4. They are singing a song only they know because they are first fruits, they were the very first raptured into heaven after the sixth seal
      5. They were the first redeemed away from (apo) the earth.

      Now an important point that most prewrath teachers miss is that Rev. 1:7 tells us that every eye shall see him when he comes on the clouds after the sixth seal (Rev. 6:16). And Matt. 24:30 tell us all the tribes mourn. The Jews see the one whom they have pierced at this point, after the sixth seal. Some mourn without repentance but 144k repent and are saved prior to the rapture. Let’s look at the OT. Rev. 1:7 is quoting Zech. 12:10 so this is a prewrath salavation after the sixth seal not an end of the 70th Week event.

      Joel 2:30-32 tells us specifically about those in Jerusalem who will call on the Name of the Lord and be saved immediately after the sixth seal signs as well. These are the 144k in my opinion.

  4. I would like to suggest here that to mark a time when the wrath starts does not clarify whether the wrath is poured out on all on the earth or just selectively directed.

    There are several groups that are to be on this earth when the various levels of wrath are released who don’t appear to be objects of God’s anger: the two witnesses (Revelation 11:1-7, the woman in the desert (the remnant of Israel (all those who flee Revelation 12:1-6, and the 144,000 (Revelation 7:1-8) These groups are ll mentioned after the 6th seal judgement.

    Are the above mentioned to partake of the judgement of God?

    1. Thanks for the comment Joseph. But I think Rev. 6:17 DOES mark when the great Day of the wrath of God is poured out on the entire earth. Let’s look at the context.

      Then the kings of the earth and the great ones and the generals and the rich and the powerful, and everyone, slave and free, hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains, calling to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?” (Rev. 6:15-17)

      So we see that all the unrepentant on the earth cry out to be hidden and they all make this statement that the great Day (Day of the Lord) of God’s Wrath has come or has begun – on the whole earth. However the trumpets are limited to 1/3 of the earth. Are the Jewish remnant (the woman) and the witnesses exposed to God’s wrath? They survive until day 1260, but I see nothing in the text that says that are hidden from God’s wrath. It is the time of Jacob’s Trouble but he will be saved out of it. So I say yes, they all partake in the judgment of God, certainly in the bowls.

      Now if you’ve read Rapture: Case Closed? Chapter 4, I make the case that the 144k are raptured FIRST, as first fruits to the Lord ahead of other believers. Check out that chapter again. Other prewrathers say the seal of God is to protect the 144k during the wrath. Both ideas are possible imo.

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