WILL IRAN FULFILL DANIEL 8 NOW SAUDI KING IS DEAD?

By: Nelson Walters 01/28/2015

Author of Are We Ready For Jesus? How to Prepare for His Return (coming May 2015)

We have seen in this post “ARE WE ABOUT TO SEE IRAN FULFILL DANIEL 8?” that a war between the Sunni and Shia Muslims is about to explode across the Middle East.  This war will usher in the career of the Antichrist himself.  Not only does the Bible predict this war, but the Islamic “holy” writings do as well.  Despite the fact their writings are uninspired, they still predict this war and that it will give rise to the Mahdi, their “messiah” figure.  We know from “PULVERIZED” and “THE FOURTH SIGNPOST: THE BEAST” that this Mahdi will in fact be our Antichrist!

Some of the uninspired Muslim writings mention the death of a “King Abdullah” and a war in Syria as an important signs before the coming of the Mahdi.  So we must ask the question, will Iran fulfill Daniel 8 now Saudi King is dead?

We have learned that Daniel 8 is prophecy for our time, NOT prophecy fulfilled in ancient times.   If you haven’t read the article at the top of the page yet and have questions about this fact, I suggest you start there then return to this article because it provides essential background information.  Those seeking even more detailed information should purchase the book Daniel Revisited by Mark Davidson.

The Saudi Kings and Their Link to Prophecy

Shia Muslims especially, await their Mahdi like Christians anticipate the return of Christ.  Their sacred writings tell of the rise of this Islamic “messiah,” and the steps necessary for him to return.  One of the steps Shia Muslims in particular, have been waiting for is the death of Saudi King Abdullah.  These writings seem to imply his death will precede the rise of the Mahdi (Antichrist).

On doomsday, a man who is carrying the name of an animal ascends to the throne, after which a man named Abdullah comes to the power. Whoever informs me of his death, I will inform him of the rise [of Mahdi]. After Abdullah passes away, for several days and months, the government will appear” (Ghaybat Al-Tusi).

 The predecessor to Abdullah was King Fahd whose name means “the cheetah” (the name of an animal).  The Shia Muslims look at this hadith and see fulfillment in these two former Saudi Kings, and many now believe the coming of their Mahdi is near.

The Syrian Civil War is the Next Link

Shia Muslims think the next step to the rise of the Mahdi is a war with the Sunni Muslims over control of Syria.  This war sounds shockingly like what Daniel 8 prophesies about the Great Sunni/Shia war.  Immediately after the death of King Abdullah, an Al-Monitor article appeared that discussed these Islamic prophetic writings in detail.  That article has been removed from the Internet (I find that removal interesting to say the least).  However we do have this article that discusses the original article in detail.  I read the original article in Al-Monitor and can attest to what this Prophecy News Digest article asserts.

The original article in Al-Monitor mentioned that the prophecies are found in a Muslim “holy” book called Al-Jafr.  They confirm many of the “prophecies” in the 2011 Iranian film The Coming Is Upon Us.  This film suggests that the Supreme leader of Iran, Khamenei,  and the leader of Hezbollah, Hassan Nasrallah, are re-incarnations of of individuals mentioned in the prophecies or they fulfill the prophecies.  Devout Shiities seeing what they believe as prophecy fulfilled before their eyes are driven to participate in the fulfillment of their other prophecies to bring about the coming of their Mahdi (our Antichrist.) 

Those “other prophecies” involve a war with the Sunni Muslims in Syria.  The Al-Jahr prophecies indicate that Sunni Muslims will temporarily win the civil war in Syria and kill its current leader (Al-Assad.)  As an aside, I wonder how Al-Assad feels about this “prophecy” which calls for his murder?

What Does The Bible Say?

Returning to the true and inspired prophecies, Daniel 8 describes how Iran initiates the great Sunni-Shia war.

Then I lifted my eyes and looked, and behold, a ram (Iran) which had two horns was standing in front of the canal. Now the two horns were long, but one was longer than the other, with the longer one coming up last.  I saw the ram butting westward, northward, and southward, and no other beasts could stand before him nor was there anyone to rescue from his power, but he did as he pleased and magnified himself. (Dan. 8; 3-4 NASB, clarification mine)

In the article from this site referenced at the beginning of this post, we explain in detail why the “ram” is Iran.  If you need to understand the prophecy, check out the article.  Of great importance are the directions the ram head-butts: west, north, and south.  West and north of Iran are Iraq and Syria, and south of Iran is Saudi Arabia.

The recent Shiite revolution in Yemen may be related to this invasion of Saudi Arabia (head-butting south).  The oil rich Eastern Province of Saudi Arabia may also be a target of the Iranians because it has a majority Shia population.

North and west of Iran and Iraq and Syria.  The Shia expect the Sunni to win the civil war in Syria temporarily.  It may well be that Iran is waiting for ISIS to win in Syria before attacking so their “prophecies” can be fulfilled prior to their invasion.  Although this reason is not found in our inspired scriptures, it makes logical sense that the Iranians will trust their “holy” writings.

What Iran does not expect, of course, is the rest of the story.  Our Bible clearly shows that after Iran invades the Middle East, Turkey or a coalition of Sunni countries with Turkey in control, will counter-attack and crush Iran.  Again please refer to the original article for more information.

Why Are Islamic “Prophecies” Close to Being Accurate?

The final question you may be asking is why are the prophecies of a false religion accurate?  One reason is that the writers had access to the Bible and it’s scriptures, and may have twisted what they read there.  An additional reason is potential demonic influence.  Many of the writers claim angelic assistance in the writing.  Was this the assistance of fallen angels?

What ever the reason, the Iranians and their allies believe in their scriptures and are determined to see them fulfilled.  This may be a factor that ultimately leads to the fulfillment of our true and inspired prophecies in Daniel 8.

17 thoughts on “WILL IRAN FULFILL DANIEL 8 NOW SAUDI KING IS DEAD?”

  1. Christ is a title and represents spiritual quality relating to God. All the Messengers of God who brought revelation/religion/message from God have spiritual titles. For example Moses’ title is interlocutor, the one who conversed with God. Abraham’s is friend of God, Mohammad’s is apostle of God, Baha’u’llah’s is glory of God, so on. So, anti-Christ means those who oppose these Messengers who speak on behalf of God through inspiration as Jesus says, “I tell you what Father tells me.” Therefore “the way and the truth” is about their mission and message from God during progressive eras from Adam to now. As far as violence goes the Church is far ahead of any religion: Five hundred years of Inquisition in Spain and burning of thousands alive at stake. Before that 100 years war between France and England and after 30 years war in 17th century between Protestants and Catholics. Philosopher Goethe has described the Church as, “2000 years of error and violence.”

    1. John, thank you for reading. Yes, Christ is a title, it means Messiah or Anointed One. But Yeshua (Jesus) is completely different from all the others you mention. They are simply men. All were sinners. Yeshua is both God and Man. He was and is without sin. As your namesake John the Apostle wrote in John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word (Yeshua) and the Word was with God and the Word WAS GOD.” Jesus is YHWH. Jesus is God.

      Your namesake then wrote in his letter 1 John 2:22 “Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son.” So the one who denies that Yeshua is God and that He and the Father are ONE is clearly of the spirit of the Antichrist. Antichrist does NOT mean those who oppose human “messengers” but rather those who deny that Yeshua is God.

      Hope that helps you on your journey to find truth. Remember Yeshua (Jesus) is the way, the TRUTH and the Life. I pray you find it, John. Blessings to you.

  2. Unfortunately, you do not have studied the history of christianity properly. The Bible in its current state is altered many time by European churches. Go back and study christianity before it came to America.

    Johannes Calvijn and Martin Luther are important christian scholars (from the past) which you should study to understand that the current Bible is at least 40% altered from it’s original state.

    For the church however, there was a problem. Islam, which is the only true book, was not altered. It contained all the original scriptures. Please do not fall for the centuries long lasting lies of the church and end up in Hell. God/Allah wants you to enter heaven. And only those who believe He is worth the effort to keep studying and making strides not to fall for the devil’s game will be worth his mercy.

    May God/Allah help all of us to have the willpower to study and find out what is part of His path and what is the devil’s path.

    1. Udiman,

      Thank you for reading and corresponding. I hope you enjoyed the article that shows Islamic and Christian scriptures both pointing to a great war that will lead to the end of times. It is critical that at this time we all repent and live wholly for God. Time is short.

      I was not always a follower of Yeshua (Jesus). I was born in an unbelieving home and spent many years studying before I came to believe Yeshua (Jesus) is exactly who he said he was and that His Word is truth, not altered. I would like to share some of what I have learned and what has made me a “Person of the Book”. This website Stand to Reason gives overwhelming proof of the authenticity of the New Testament as an unaltered text which has over 5000 copies dating back to just after the time of Yeshua (Jesus). No other historic document even comes close to the reliability of the Bible. It appears you have been led astray by false teaching. You should ask yourself why these teachers have led you astray?

      I can tell from your comments that you want to know the truth and you want others to know the truth. Praise God! I want the same for you and others too. I want you to know the one who IS the truth. Jesus to Muslims is a wonderful website that will help answer additional questions. I pray that your request to know the truth is answered. If you seek Him, He will reveal himself to you.

      Blessings to you,
      Nelson

    1. Lawrence, Thanks for reading and for your question. The four craftsmen are in Zech 1: 18-21. Someday I’ll write a post for you on this topic, but for now here is a short answer. The Angel tells Zechariah there are 4 horns (empires) that have scattered Israel, Judah and Jerusalem. Historically we know 3 of these: Assyria, Babylon and Rome. The fourth is Islam which will scatter Jerusalem in the Tribulation (Luke 21:20-24). The four “craftsmen” are the ones raised up to punish and cast down the “horns” (empires.) Assyria was defeated by Nebopolassar and his son Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. Babylon was defeated by Cyrus the Great of Persia, Rome was defeated by Mehmed II of the Ottoman Empire. The Antichrist will be defeated by Jesus himself. Hope that helps Lawrence.

  3. Nelson, I saw ‘The Coming is Upon Us’ a few years ago, before I abandoned the Rome Antichrist paradigm. Even then I found it quite interesting – it was actually the first time I ever discovered that Islam had endtime prophecies!

    When it was announced a few days ago that King Abdullah passed, i immediately remembered that video.

    You beat me to the punch in writing an article to bring awareness to the significance of these events – especially since it is quite clear who we can expect to fulfil the role of Antichrist in the last days.

    Thank you for posting brother. The Lord bless you for your hard work and dedication.

  4. Such a VERY important and timely article! I don’t disagree with any of it, other than the caveat to watch for deception. In other words, the Iranians may in fact produce a Mahdi (their “12th Imam”) who leads them into war, but he would NOT be the final Mahdi/Antichrist we are waiting for. I can picture the fervor among Bible prophecy watchers when a Mahdi does arise, gaining many to our view, but then he is utterly destroyed by Turkey’s “large horn”, and many then fall away thinking it was incorrect. Know what I mean?

    1. I think there will be a series of false Antichrist’s, first a Shiite one, then the prominent horn will appear to be the AC. Many will be shocked when he is “broken off.” Then the real AC will arise with a “small people.” Even then we must be careful. Only when the man of sin sits in the Temple and proclaims himself God will we really know. That is why Jesus said in Matt. 24: 15 “when you see the Abomination…” That’s the sign.

      1. Nelson: How would you interpret the passage in Daniel 11:21-23:

        “21 And in his place shall arise a vile person, to whom they will not give the honor of royalty; but he shall come in peaceably, and seize the kingdom by intrigue. 22 With the force[h] of a flood they shall be swept away from before him and be broken, and also the prince of the covenant. 23 And after the league is made with him he shall act deceitfully, for he shall come up and become strong with a small number of people.”

        –The AC “will seize the kingdom by intrigue.” In other words, he won’t inherit a throne, or perhaps this could mean he won’t be elected. Could this mean he might possibly be installed to power with the help of a foreign government(s)?

        –The AC “will become strong with a small people”? Someone has characterized the AC as a “Johnny come lately”. Who might be that “small people” be? Would he already have a following? I believe he is already here and possibly gathering a “small people”, i.e., a following.

        1. Jeanne, This is a great question. IMO Daniel 11:21-35 is a dual fulfillment prophecy. In other words, it had a fulfillment in the days of Antiochus Epiphanes who was a foreshadow of the Antichrist. The Antichrist will be the final fulfillment. I am writing a series of posts about Daniel 10-12 which encompass Daniel’s final Great Vision. I plan 4 to 5 posts on these topics and have already finished two, DID SATAN FEAR THIS PROPHECY AND TRY TO KEEP IT SECRET and PRECISE HISTORIC FULFILLMENT OF DANIEL 11. I recommend you start with these two posts. They set the stage for the future aspects of this prophecy.

          Keep watching and I will continue to write posts on the remainder of this prophecy. I have promised multiple people that I’d write on this subject. The answers to your questions will require much more than an answer in the comments section, but within the next week or two I’ll have the next post in the series. I hope to answer your questions then.

          Nelson

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